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Post by phoenixcreations » Wed May 25, 2016 8:28 am

Duke and silver. Can you guys please send me your email for help. I just finished my oven 4x4x8 and will be ordering a 120xxxbtu and the pid slver bought. Ill need help wiring the pid to the tank. Are you guys willing to help? Ill be ordering everything today online. I wont be using a timer. Do you guys recommend that pid ? Heres my email. Jon2148656@maricopa.edu please get back to me when you get the chance

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Post by duke46 » Wed May 25, 2016 9:05 am

phoenixcreations wrote:Duke and silver. Can you guys please send me your email for help. I just finished my oven 4x4x8 and will be ordering a 120xxxbtu and the pid slver bought. Ill need help wiring the pid to the tank. Are you guys willing to help? Ill be ordering everything today online
Going with propane then there is not much to wiring a PID to operated it as long as you buy one that operates a mechanical relay. You will not be using a relay but the PID's put out 120 and will operate the heater. You will need a thermocouple as well.

Who are you thinking about buying your PID from? Aubers will work but have been know to fail but that was a few years back so maybe they have made them better?

The high out BTU units most all come with auto fire so they should work but you will have to bypass some of the wiring in it so it will work with a PID and a thermocouple. I really need to know the one you are looking at just to make sure. So if you have one in mind then post a link to it or give me the info on it.

I will be in my shop most of the day but I can take my computer down there with me if I have to so I can advise you better.

SlvrE60 bought the wrong unit so he has to order a part so it will work like he wants. You should not have that problem with the one you want to use.

You can post info on here or can click on my name and then you can contact me through my web site.
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Post by phoenixcreations » Wed May 25, 2016 9:21 am

As for as pid and thermocouple im not sure as wich to get. I was thinking auber since many have them and will be easy to get help as well. Ill post the link to the one im thinking of getting.
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Post by duke46 » Wed May 25, 2016 10:58 am

phoenixcreations wrote:As for as pid and thermocouple im not sure as wich to get. I was thinking auber since many have them and will be easy to get help as well. Ill post the link to the one im thinking of getting.
http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/ ... gQodAikGSw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That heater should do fine and is kind of like the one I have.

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Post by duke46 » Wed May 25, 2016 11:02 am

I have a wiring diagram for the Auber but I think they made some changes to them so I or Ed will have to double check to make sure how they wire now and for your use. Then I will post it and also let you know.
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Post by phoenixcreations » Wed May 25, 2016 4:01 pm

Awesome ill order the things today. Really appreciate the help and info. When it arrives ill contact you to help me out with the wiring

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Post by duke46 » Sat May 28, 2016 11:26 am

phoenixcreations wrote:Awesome ill order the things today. Really appreciate the help and info. When it arrives ill contact you to help me out with the wiring
Once you get your PID from Auber then go to their site and the one you bought and download the manual for it. That will save some time when answering any questions. They come out of the box ready to go to work and wiring is real simple and just need a 120 volt power source. You will also need to buy an ext cord that you will cut off the plug and wire it to your PID out and control box and drop it down so you can plug in your heater. The diagram number I think is the number 5.1
About the only thing you need to do to your new heater will be to straight wire the thermocouple that comes built-in to it. That way your PID and new TC will operate it. You will not mess with the high and low switch and it will be set to suit your need. The low setting may be all you need but you will find out once you put you oven to use.
Get with you later once you have all your parts.

To operate that size heater you really need a 100 lb tank but Tractor supply does sale a 40 lb one but you really need two and even it might freeze up when it gets to low? The smaller 30 lb ones will freeze up very quick because of the volume of propane the unit needs. I have mine fill by the company that also keeps my home one filled and I use their tanks. It is advisable for you to add a off on valve to the input of your unit so you can cut the gas off at the base of it. Lowe's or Home Depot will have them. The handles could be red/yellow or blue. Just ask them if in doubt of what it can be used for.

That is about all I can think of to tell you right this min. Have a great weekend.
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Post by duke46 » Sun May 29, 2016 10:47 am

I decided to look up the instructions for the Dyna Glo 70-125 one to find out what has to be straight wired I think? The instructions and this info should come with you new unit.
On page 14 of this pdf file you will see the thermocouple and the switch at the bottom of the page.

What I have instructed guys to do so our PID and new thermocouple will operate the unit is to take the wire with the name Earth ( I wish I knew what damn color it is?) and go from it to the other side of the switch. And that is the blue wire.

You might could just jump the switch and just go from yellow to blue? That way the thermocouple can not open the switch up.

The control valve is the one where you can raise or lower the amount of BTU's your heater puts out.

Maybe one day a guy will get a good picture of that wiring and also let me know the color of the EARTH wire.

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Post by phoenixcreations » Sun May 29, 2016 12:50 pm

I did buy the 100propane tank from tractor supply so ill fill that up Tuesday since both the auber and torpedo will be here wensday. So i will need one 120volt powder source for the pid then i will need a second cord that wires into the pid and the heater correct? I will need to buy that valve since tractor co didnt have any when i went. I did read that the heater can suck up dust and throw it into the powder. Is that true?

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Post by WiseAssYT » Sun May 29, 2016 1:17 pm

phoenixcreations wrote: I did read that the heater can suck up dust and throw it into the powder. Is that true?
Picture it , Sicily 1956 .... And shit just got blown all over your parts ,Hahahaha

It is absolutely advisable that you do everything to avoid shit going into the back of the heater , build a box that will either filter the incoming air and ,or sperates the flame from the circulation air of the inside of the oven like professional built ovens are

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