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silly element question

Post by littlejohn44 » Sat May 04, 2019 11:14 pm

I am mounting my elements on the wall of my oven build. I cant seem to find any elements that the terminal end turn out 90 degrees before they go through the wall, unless i want to pay 50-60$ each for them. I really dont want to have exposed ends in the oven itself. Can you bend the element when they are new? How are you guys doing this? Short of insetting them into the walls? I am wanting to use as much insulation as i can and insetting them i would lose 2-3 inches and dont have the room to panel over the outside to cover the lost insulation.

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Re: silly element question

Post by duke46 » Sun May 05, 2019 5:08 pm

You can bend new ones without any problem from all that I have read about doing it. Just take it slow and easy.

Building a box to put them in does look nice but also removes insulation and then there is more heat that would be on the outside of your oven and most guys even do that wrong and the heat can't get out of the box so once we catch it they have to go back and slant the top of their boxes so the heat can escape like it should.

If a couple of them will be mounted so they can just stick through the back of your oven then all you have to worry about is the other two.
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Post by littlejohn44 » Sun May 05, 2019 9:35 pm

i framed everything in 3.5 metal studs and the went back and put a 2x6 metal frame around that so i have roughly 5.5 inches of insulation. i am not sure by what you meant as "If a couple of them will be mounted so they can just stick through the back of your oven then all you have to worry about is the other two." I plan on mounting all 3 on the walls. The center back one will have a vent directly behind it for the circulation fan to blow out of. I would like to bend the ends of the element in a l shape so that the terminals stick through the walls and the elements hang down.

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Re: silly element question

Post by Miller821 » Mon May 06, 2019 7:54 am

Why not use a junction box? We used a metal one that’s about 4 x 4, and put the connections for 2 elements in each one. You could do the same for just 1 and run it vertically though if that’s what you’re trying to do? Makes it look clean and keeps anything from potentially dropping on them.

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Re: silly element question

Post by littlejohn44 » Mon May 06, 2019 10:57 pm

That is what my alt plan will be if i cant bend them. I got a couple 24" ceiling filter covers with the louvers in them that i am gonna use for deflectors. I guess i could build a box on one end or even just hang them from a control box like you suggested.

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Post by duke46 » Tue May 07, 2019 8:42 am

littlejohn44 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 10:57 pm
That is what my alt plan will be if i cant bend them. I got a couple 24" ceiling filter covers with the louvers in them that i am gonna use for deflectors. I guess i could build a box on one end or even just hang them from a control box like you suggested.
On each side of your oven take your elements and aim the connecting ends towards each other then using flexible metal conduit and fittings come out of your control box down the outside and then to the inside of your oven and connect the wire to your elements and then use a metal electrical box with plate mounted to the oven wall https://www.lowes.com/pd/RACO-2-Gang-Gr ... ox/3129407 Just not sure if there would be enough room inside with elements coming in from both sides? You may have to use two?

I hope you know you need high temperature wire and connectors and if you use any other type wire and connectors then the wire and connector will burn off where it connects to the element. McMaster-Carr has the wire and connectors and also has the tadpole seal for your door. I have all of that info.

There is a lot of good oven building info on the Caswell forum. So go check it out and it may help you a bunch? https://forum.caswellplating.com/forum/ ... ding-forum
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Re: silly element question

Post by littlejohn44 » Tue May 07, 2019 7:52 pm

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guess im confused at what you are saying by pointing ends at each other? kinda like the picture i have drawn? I have all the wire needed, i bought 25 foot of 14 gauge radix and oven terminals. I plan on running to conduit on outside and changing over to 10 gauge to run to the control box. As with caswell, they wont send a activation email to me. i think because its a yahoo. account. I even tried to send a message via email to them with out a response.

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Post by duke46 » Wed May 08, 2019 8:25 am

The drawing of the elements is correct.

You only need to join Caswell if you want to post something and maybe to see a picture but at least you can read what is being said until the do OK you.
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Re: silly element question

Post by duke46 » Sat May 18, 2019 11:38 am

This builder bent his elements so I figured I would send the info to you so you could see them.
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